some of the new technologies i like is this virtual realities where we take you to the lab and you're actually watching the video of this scene and slowly monitoring your heart rate, your blood pressure, and over time, that's the word that you use, it's to desensitize you to that trauma. it's almost like being afraid of height and you go back again to the same thing and you get better and better. that's a big thing, exposure therapy, that's a big part of it. >> jamie: are you talking about like two weeks of treatment, a month of treatment, or some people are genetically prone to anxiety where maybe they need to be, you know, protectively on some treatment? >> absolutely. it may be months and months, or it may actually lead into underlying psychiatric problems that preexisted this that may be brought out. there's a group of people that not only -- cognitive behavioral therapy is number one. david is right. diversionary activities are important, too, getting back to laughter and daily life is hugely important. jamie, for some of us, it's necessary to give medication, anti-anxiety medica